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The Amira is Heavy for 2020

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1 hour ago, Martin said:

Plus you will have to carry a bunch of big batteries to get you through the day

 

That's very true, the Amira will eat through your battery supply much more quickly than any other comparable run & gun setup. If you're running and gunning on your own, this is something to be very aware of.

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@Martin @Julien Power consumption is definitely very much higher than smaller cameras, but I guess that's the price of getting the Arri image processing and features of the camera. I have another thread where we talked a bit about the new micro/mini V-mounts where you can dual mount two 98wh batteries on a plate which isn't much bigger than a 150wh battery. Excellent choice when you're travelling etc. 

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The added time/effort required by needing more batteries for the Amira, is easily compensated for by the reduced time/effort required to light subjects you're shooting with it (in order to hold more highlight detail).

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1 hour ago, Mark K said:

The added time/effort required by needing more batteries for the Amira, is easily compensated for by the reduced time/effort required to light subjects you're shooting with it (in order to hold more highlight detail).

Eh? How does a nice highlight roll off mean you need to do less lighting on your subject? Doesn’t make sense.

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1 hour ago, Nezih said:

Eh? How does a nice highlight roll off mean you need to do less lighting on your subject? Doesn’t make sense.

The greater highlight latitude means you can get away with less power in your key light and still hold hot windows. It can also save you from having to bring in grad NDs or netting windows to balance your exposure. 

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You're assuming a very specific scenario / use case there. And it doesn't have more highlight latitude than many other cameras... it just rolls off in an aesthetically pleasing way.

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59 minutes ago, Nezih said:

You're assuming a very specific scenario / use case there. And it doesn't have more highlight latitude than many other cameras... it just rolls off in an aesthetically pleasing way.

There are plenty of examples and tests out there that do clearly show the additional latitude in stops above middle grey. 

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On 6/25/2020 at 11:50 PM, Nathaniel Bockley said:

For very involved documentary style shoots I find that I tend to get less creative or ambitious with shots towards the end of the day when using heavy cameras.

Yep. Depending on how brutal the day is, a heavy rig can start to wear you down over time, resulting in a little less energy put into getting the best shot. This is especially the case once you get older and start to really feel the abuse you've been putting your body through all those years operating a camera. If the rig is on sticks all the time, it's no big deal. But if you're getting creative, running around, getting on the ground, running up hillsides/slopes or going up and down stairs, a heavier rig does start to tax you towards the end of the day, no doubt.

I love the Amira and I've shot with it a lot. I think it's probably the easiest camera to use, ever. Everything works on it. Footage looks gorgeous. It's just a total workhorse and it delivers in spades. But I will say, I don't go climbing onto rooftops with it much. I use it when I know things are a bit more controlled. 

I was about to get an Amira when the C300 III was announced. I just grabbed one of those and tossed the Arri LUT on it. I'm as happy as a clam. After using this camera for the past two weeks, I could easily see the C300 III become the new industry standard for docs. It's that good. Also, I think Arri is going to update the Amira pretty soon. There are rumors they'll be releasing a new 4k sensor by the end of the year. And I bet your bottom dollar we're going to see prices on the current Amiras become verrrryyyy appealing. 

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2 hours ago, DcD said:

Yep. Depending on how brutal the day is, a heavy rig can start to wear you down over time, resulting in a little less energy put into getting the best shot. This is especially the case once you get older and start to really feel the abuse you've been putting your body through all those years operating a camera. If the rig is on sticks all the time, it's no big deal. But if you're getting creative, running around, getting on the ground, running up hillsides/slopes or going up and down stairs, a heavier rig does start to tax you towards the end of the day, no doubt.

I love the Amira and I've shot with it a lot. I think it's probably the easiest camera to use, ever. Everything works on it. Footage looks gorgeous. It's just a total workhorse and it delivers in spades. But I will say, I don't go climbing onto rooftops with it much. I use it when I know things are a bit more controlled. 

I was about to get an Amira when the C300 III was announced. I just grabbed one of those and tossed the Arri LUT on it. I'm as happy as a clam. After using this camera for the past two weeks, I could easily see the C300 III become the new industry standard for docs. It's that good. Also, I think Arri is going to update the Amira pretty soon. There are rumors they'll be releasing a new 4k sensor by the end of the year. And I bet your bottom dollar we're going to see prices on the current Amiras become verrrryyyy appealing. 

They are not going to announce a new Amira. 

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Latest rumors from Arri: A native 4K S35 sensor in a Alexa Mini (LF) form factor camera. So it's probably going to be more like a "Alexa Mini 4K", I guess.

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2 hours ago, Julien said:

Latest rumors from Arri: A native 4K S35 sensor in a Alexa Mini (LF) form factor camera. So it's probably going to be more like a "Alexa Mini 4K", I guess.

This is what Arri has said isn't it? I thought I read an interview somewhere.

Wether we'll se a direct replacement for the Amira in the near future is unlikely in my opinion. The Amira still fulfills it's market very well and so does the Alexa Mini still. As long as both those cameras are widely used in production both will continue to be very popular.

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