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Hi, 

If anyone is interested Ag Dok has come out with this years camera test. They look at the Fujifilm XT3, Panasonic S1, Blackmagic PCC 6K, Panasonic S1H, Panasonic EVA1, Blackmagic Ursa G2, Sony FS7II, Kinefinity Mavo LF, Sony FX9, Canon C500II, Arri Amira

LINK: https://www.agdok.de/en_EN/kameratest2020-en

If you missed last years one where they looked at the Alexa LF, Red Monstro, Canon C700,  Mavo LF, Sony Venice and A7S2

LINK: https://www.agdok.de/en_EN/kameratest2019-en

I think these guys do the best tests around. Really easy to see how everything compares. 

 

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Just going to say it looks like the Panasonic S1 is punching waaaay above its weight.

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8 hours ago, Australian Image (Ray) said:

After reading it all, the Blackmagic cameras seem to be seriously good options (pity they stuffed up the Ursa test) and great value.

Hi Ray, sorry can you explained how they stuffed up the ursa test? 

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Hmmm do you think it would change the outcome by much? I imagine dynamic range tests would be roughly the same. Does the camera down sample? That might even give it a bit of an advantage was sometime it gives a cleaner image from cameras. 

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9 hours ago, Michael L said:

Hmmm do you think it would change the outcome by much? I imagine dynamic range tests would be roughly the same. Does the camera down sample? That might even give it a bit of an advantage was sometime it gives a cleaner image from cameras. 

I can't say what the differences might be, but if you're going to test things out in this sort of comparison, then you really need to make use of the best that the camera can offer. They should have gone back and retested the Ursa, rather than say they made a mistake and used the results anyway. I'd suggest that it can also reflect poorly on their professionalism.

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They made the comment about the tests being a 1 to 1 pixel read out so maybe they thought the difference was not substantial enough to retest. I also think the fact the did point out their mistake makes it more trustworthy. Far easier to brush that under the carpet and pretend like it was all legit. I imagine they didn't retest because by the time they caught the mistake it was too late.  

 

 

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True. From what I can understand based on the fact the website is in German and is translated to English the tests they are stating that the close up samples of the faces is presented as a 1:1 zoom so they are not going to change based on resolution. I have shot with the original Ursa Mini but not the G2, I would assume but please correct me if I'm wrong, that the UHD would be a crop in from 4.6k so it would retain a 1:1 image and thus their test would retain its validity in terms of the close up pixel peeping. The full frame would obviously have finer grain based on a larger downscale but negligible effect on overall dynamic range and colour rendition and on a pixel level identical result. 

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On 6/19/2020 at 1:13 PM, Michael L said:

Just going to say it looks like the Panasonic S1 is punching waaaay above its weight.

yo no kidding. the S1 performed better than everything except the Amira and the Mavo LF, and it was using a codec of only around 400 mbps. what is this alchemy??

 

 

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Yeah super surprising how good it is especially when you consider the price!

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On 6/21/2020 at 10:09 AM, Guest said:

They made the comment about the tests being a 1 to 1 pixel read out so maybe they thought the difference was not substantial enough to retest. I also think the fact the did point out their mistake makes it more trustworthy. Far easier to brush that under the carpet and pretend like it was all legit. I imagine they didn't retest because by the time they caught the mistake it was too late.  

 

 

Yes, you are right.

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